I've never toke much attention to that because I have a feeling that it's price is on another league and I already have the cheap copy (Helios 44-2).įor now, I may pick up the 77M-4 because it's affordable. I'm going to take a closer look at the Biotar. Especially the old brass version with 17 diaphragm blades. If you like the results of Helios-77M-4, Zeiss Biotar 58/2 will be a much better choice. The build quality of Helios-77M-4 is better. I would appreciate the difference in the 10 percent. Helios-77M-4 is better, but only slightly. Posted: Thu 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: Helios 77M-4 better than Helios 44-2? Swirly effect at Helios-77M-4 more pronounced (It seems so to me.) If you like the results of Helios-77M-4, Zeiss Biotar 58/2 will be a much better choice.
Posted: Thu 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: Helios 77M-4 better than Helios 44-2? Kryss wrote: Very nice portrait and excellent English in putting "an" instead of "a" before hood.ĭo not trust Atoms.they make up everything. I'm going to put an hood on the 44-2 and see. I thought that because the front element is so recessed it may not need any hood, but I found that sometimes (not always) I end up with washed out images lacking contrast and vibrance (even without direct sun rays or flare). I've been using my 44-2 without any hood. I think I will pull the trigger and buy a 77M-4 MC. It may be a lit less swirly in bokeh, but in some of the samples I've seen it is enough swirly for me. If the 77M-4 is sharper it's a good thing. Many thank's for the quick answer and complete information. As far as I know, there are 4 versions of this lens:Ĥ) Unkonown factory (no logo) MS Helios 77M I recommend using it with a proper hood beacause it flares heavily just like most of the Soviet-era lenses. It has a different filter thread diameter: 52mm (44-2 has 49mm) and is also a bit heavier than 44-2. I own a few copies of Helios 44-2 and a few 77M-4 and to me, the 77M-4 is sharper than 44-2 but also a little less swirly when it comes to the bokeh characteristics. Last edited by Humulus on Thu 1:47 pm edited 1 time in total The last one is pretty rare and has a different colour-coating. As far as I know, there are 4 versions of this lens:Ĥ) Unknown factory (no logo) MS Helios 77M
Humulus wrote: I own a few copies of Helios 44-2 and a few 77M-4 and to me, the 77M-4 is sharper than 44-2 but also a little less swirly when it comes to the bokeh characteristics. MF lenses: Helios 44-2 f/2 | Meyer-Optik Görlitz Trioplan 50mm f/2.9 | Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar 1Q 50mm f2.8 silver 12 blades | Olympus and Panasonic micro 4/3 cameras user. Losing 16mm would give a bit less subject isolation but I think the f/1.8 over the f/2 will compensate that and in the end it will give the same look. I value subject isolation and blured background with nice rounded and visible bokeh.ĭo you think the 77M-4 will be as good as the 44-2 or better? My cameras are micro 4/3 system, so 58mm f/2 will be 116mm f/4, and 50mm f/1.8 will be 100mm f/3.6. I use the Helios for portrait work featuring swirl bokeh on the background. I've seen some sample photos and they look sharp and got the same swirl effect as the 44.2. I own a nice copy of an Helios 44-2 (1983 Valdai plant version) but I'm tempted to get my hands on a Helios 77M-4 MC. Posted: Thu 9:20 am Post subject: Helios 77M-4 better than Helios 44-2?
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